tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5923978447493188869.post8990141425886786563..comments2023-10-12T02:58:35.548-05:00Comments on No Border Wall: The Wall Does Not WorkNO BORDER WALLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16705064894973061623noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5923978447493188869.post-16290923657792908072007-11-18T11:45:00.000-06:002007-11-18T11:45:00.000-06:00More regarding the Buenos Aires NWR section of the...More regarding the Buenos Aires NWR section of the border fence:<BR/><BR/>Near-done border fence stirs critics, defenders<BR/>Land swap: best deal possible or bad precedent?<BR/><BR/>http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/212155Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5923978447493188869.post-71347188024264892952007-11-16T21:19:00.000-06:002007-11-16T21:19:00.000-06:00Actually, Anonymous, my house is about 5 miles fro...Actually, Anonymous, my house is about 5 miles from the border. I know exactly what the situation is down here because I see it every day. I will also see the wall every day once it is completed, and I can tell you that the litter left by crossers is nothing compared to the hundreds of miles of land cleared of all vegetation, the hundreds of homes and businesses bulldozed, and the border communities split in two that the wall will bring. <BR/><BR/>As we have seen in San Diego, it will be billions spent for nothing. The wall is just a sound bite, a simple-minded politician's trick to stay in office or cling to presidential dreams. It is not real solution to any of our nation's problems. It certainly won't protect anyone. No terrorist has come across our nation's southern border. The 9/11 hijackers flew into the US using valid visas. If we had built the wall from sea to shining sea it would have done nothing to protect us on September 11. Chertoff's lizards versus humans line is just another sound bite. Don't fall for it.NO BORDER WALLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16705064894973061623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5923978447493188869.post-32187615308349891122007-11-16T20:44:00.000-06:002007-11-16T20:44:00.000-06:00Well then, perhaps we should place our nations saf...Well then, perhaps we should place our nations safety and security in jeopardy in the name of of protecting lizards and cactus. Thanks so much for clarifying your priorities.<BR/><BR/>The wall in San Diego is not as effective due to the fact that it is in a high population urban area where it is easy to evade law enforcement once crossing.<BR/><BR/>Try living here along the border as I do, listen to the stories of ranchers and home owners who's property is being damaged and witness the environmental destruction left in the wake of these "poor immigrants", listen to the news filled with stories of homeowners and ranch houses being broken into and ransacked or robbed at gunpoint in their own homes.<BR/>It's easy for you to criticize from a thousand miles away, I guarantee that if you had to lire with these problems on a daily basis you'd feel differently. I suppose it's easier to stay within your comfortable self-imposed boundaries , safely away from the threat on our border and fret about trivial things like the preservation of creosote brush and insects. Sometimes the environment must take second place to people and their safety. People like you,who place other things above human life and our citizens safety sicken me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5923978447493188869.post-68448968122027496382007-11-16T15:23:00.000-06:002007-11-16T15:23:00.000-06:00Paratrooper82, I assume you are former military fr...Paratrooper82, <BR/><BR/>I assume you are former military from the 82nd Airborne. If so, thank you for your service to this great, although perhaps, fading Nation. I am a former military serviceman and I am likely just as upset or more so regarding illegal immigration than you are. I am for the death penalty for drug runners and severe penalties for ALL illegal aliens who cross our borders. I do not want their kids in our schools and all of the other myriad social service issues involved. I have no sympathy for illegal immigrants. I am for a strong military presence on the border and I want our troops home protecting our borders and helping our own citizens instead of needlessly dying in Iraq. As a father, I still think that increasing our population through illegal immigration is one of the worst harms to the environment and those reasons are manifold. However, I am strongly opposed to the wall/fence/barricade or whatever term you want to apply to it, also for the environmental and ecological damages it will incur. I am not a liberal, but rather a conservative Republican who views the current immigration policy as a major travesty of justice to law-abiding U.S. citizens. However, as long as neither political party will act, to include reversing/repealing NAFTA, then nothing is going to change, wall, or no wall, except further ecological and economic damage to the United States of America.<BR/><BR/>Excerpts from ‘Mending Wall’ Robert Frost:<BR/><BR/>“We have to use a spell to make them balance: <BR/>'Stay where you are until our backs are turned!' <BR/>We wear our fingers rough with handling them. <BR/>Oh, just another kind of out-door game, <BR/>One on a side. It comes to little more: <BR/>There where it is we do not need the wall:”<BR/><BR/>Before I built a wall I'd ask to know <BR/>What I was walling in or walling out, <BR/>And to whom I was like to give offence. <BR/>Something there is that doesn't love a wall,<BR/><BR/>He will not go behind his father's saying, <BR/>And he likes having thought of it so well <BR/>He says again, "Good fences make good neighbors."<BR/><BR/>Thanks to No Border Wall for reminding us that Frost’s ‘Mending Wall’ is just one of the many poems/parables that are woefully misunderstood, misrepresented, and misstated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5923978447493188869.post-13009410292018218752007-11-16T14:08:00.000-06:002007-11-16T14:08:00.000-06:00Paratrooper,You apparently missed a couple of key ...Paratrooper,<BR/><BR/>You apparently missed a couple of key points. <BR/><BR/>First off, THE WALL DOES NOT WORK. In San Diego,where the wall has been up for the longest time and is the most heavily reinforced, MORE people are coming across the border. In Del Rio, where there has never been a wall, LESS poeple are coming across the border. It makes no sense to repeat the failure of San Diego. <BR/><BR/>The thing that is going to be built is not a "good fence" that will make "good neighbors". When the wall is built in South Texas it will involve bulldozing homes and businesses. Generally speaking, when you build a fence around your yard you don't bulldoze your neighbor's house. <BR/><BR/>Also, if you were to actually read the Robert Frost poem that "good fences make good neighbors" is taken from, that is a quote from Frost's simpleminded neighbor. The poem is ridiculing the neighbor's foolish attitudes.NO BORDER WALLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16705064894973061623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5923978447493188869.post-88967327939846286462007-11-16T10:14:00.000-06:002007-11-16T10:14:00.000-06:00Wow,,last time I checked the Mexican Military patr...Wow,,last time I checked the Mexican Military patrols Mexico's southern border.Guess it's ok for Mexico to militarize and protect it's southern border to keep out undesirables,but God forbid if those evil gringo's do the same. What a bunch of cry-baby losers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5923978447493188869.post-72326423663816399502007-11-16T10:07:00.000-06:002007-11-16T10:07:00.000-06:00There is an old saying that "Good fences make good...There is an old saying that "Good fences make good neighbors".<BR/>That couldn't be more true!<BR/><BR/>I have a challenge for you hypocrites who want no fences or walls on our border to keep criminals and terrorists out of our country.<BR/><BR/>Tear down the fences and walls around your own home, take the doors off of it, leave it open for anyone who wishes to enter it at will. After the neighbors pit-bulldog eats your precious poodle, your entertainment center goes missing and everything in you jewelery box disappears you might have a change of mind.<BR/><BR/>This isn't about being nice, sympathetic or helpful to those who want to come here, it is about making our nation safer, keeping drugs out of the hands of our kids and our job market more secure for American workers, especially those just entering the workforce.<BR/><BR/>We don't just need a wall on the border, we need a fortified wall with a constant military or para-military presence. We, the USA are one of the few countries in the world that treats our border security as a law enforcement issue instead of a military issue, time to wake up and smell the starbucks.There are hundreds of documented cases each year of armed Mexican Military units crossing our border, there are those of us who think this sounds like a pretty dangerous situation.<BR/><BR/>If our government doesn't do something to secure our borders, it is only a matter of time until concerned citizens take matters into their own hands and things will definitely get worse, not better, when that happens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5923978447493188869.post-83807490507139076972007-11-15T15:22:00.000-06:002007-11-15T15:22:00.000-06:00http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/related/210962.phpRefu...http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/related/210962.php<BR/><BR/>Refuge land traded for border fence <BR/><BR/>Buenos Aires to give up 5.8 acres; deal upsets environmental group <BR/><BR/>The Region 2 Regional Office staff could have most likely stopped or modified the section of the BANWR fence but chose to trade land instead. The work is progressing on this section of the fence and for a while, some of us thought there might be a chance for a modification of a vehicle barrier and increased surveillance. The BANWR fence will most likely be completed this week or soon after.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com